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Tuesday, February 27, 2007

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» A Writers Life: Is a Story Really Necessary? from Daily Dojo of Joshua James
Lee Goldberg, television writer and novelist, runs into a whole lotta folks who ask how he does what he does . . . Their questions, and his answers, are covered in Is a Story Really Necessary? and its a classic read . . . check it out, dojo-mo... [Read More]

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Lee Goldberg is an author and television writer who blogs about the writing life. Here's an excerpt from a post he wrote after he spoke at the San Francisco Writers Conference about screenwriting:Another person came up to me and asked [Read More]

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...........whoa......

I'd click into NY'er mode and gave those people the business!

Just remember how your sister handled a similar situation at that Starlog convention and say, "You're an idiot. Just FYI."

Thank you for the laughs. I've been working on my novel since 7:30 this morning, and I just realized I will probably throw away everything I've written today. You helped me stave off the crying.

You know that's funny, where have I heard that before? We all learned one way or the other what it takes to break into the writing business, no matter what - like Billy Crystal's character in the move, "Throw Momma from the train", he tells his students, "a writer writes, always". Lee kills his keyboard every to beat his deadlines on Monk, each and every writer on every show we've seen on the tube is doing the same thing.

Oh don't you just hate those evil stares when someone ask's, if there's a way around the backdoor? Like I say, ain't gonna any easier, unless they or we write something, when the car payment is due by the 5th.

Go figures! Lee's right, write, work and write and get established is the way to make it work. Grr....

How the hell are people that stupid, did they all decide that hard work and learning about what you want to do are irrelevant? That'd be like asking how you write sentence? Ah words people, words. Credit to you for not backhanding them all a few times.

Capt.

That's the most infuriating/hilarious thing I've read in awhile, and I think I read that post the first time you made it.

The only thing I can imagine more frustrating than that is the dreaded civilian pitch. I'm a Creative Writing major in college. I have absolutely no connections. And yet, still, I get pitched ideas for stories. My marketing teacher tried to pitch me his idea.

I'd like to hear about some of the pitches people have given you, because the ideas people have...

Lee,
Thanks for the laugh.

This reminds me of the conversation I had with a neighbor the other day while walking my dog. This neighbor knows I am a published writer, so he stops me to ask my advice. He is a member of Mystery Writers of America but says he never goes to the meetings because there is nothing he can learn. Then he tells me he just got his novel "accepted" by a POD-press in Canada. When I asked him why he self-published, he said, "I got tired of trying to get lucky."

I suggested to him that POD wasn't the best route to success, and that it takes work, craftsmanship and perseverance. And that it took me ten years to get published.

He said, "You got lucky, that's all."

I wish my dog were bigger so I could have sicced him on the moron.

Spectacular post, Lee!

Loved this the first around too. Thanks for sharing.

Isaac Ho

Al I can say is... God BLESS you for putting up with all of them... that "isn't there a computer program for that?" was genius.

I love it. It tells us how we are. . . and it's funny.

Thank you for sharing this again.

Sincerely,
Peg Long
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I passed this on to some of my screenwriting friends! Thanks again.

Best to you,
Peg Long

Lee, thanks for sharing. Humans don't you love them? Without them no writer would have a story. So we need our less enlightened kin to provide us with material to tell our stories.

Off-subject- The first few seasons of Monk there was stuff between characters; Stottlemeyer jealous of Monk... Monk jealous of Sharona's boyfriends? Sharona cruel to Disher. Is Disher attracted to Sharona? Sharona like Disher? Why mean to him? Monk dismisses Sharona's fears, Sharona betrayed, how will Monk respond? How, or will, she forgive him? This stuff was great, it was why I watched. I don't care about the mystery. Now, no more stuff between characters. No more psychological complexity. I miss it.

Haven't ckecked in for a while:
Season's Greetings - Wishing you and yours the gifts of peace, joy and love this season and everyday of the coming year.

"The Greatest Gifts":
May we break boundaries, tear down walls and build on the foundation of goodness inside each of us. May we look past differences, gain understanding, and embrace acceptance. May we reach out to each other, rather than resist. May we be better stewards for the earth, protecting nurturing and replenishing the beauties of nature. May we practice gratitude for all we have, rather than complain about our needs. May we seek cures for the sick, help for the hungry, and love for the lonely. May we share our talents, give our time, and teach our children. May we hold hope for the future very tenderly in our hearts and do all we can to build for bright tomorrows. And may we love with our whole hearts, for that's the only way to love.

Best to you,
Peg Long
Screenwriter
peggysueresults@yahoo.com

Thanks for sharing that again.. I never tire of those exchanges (well maybe I do when I'm actually involved in the exchange.) Perhaps there is a subcourse you could teach at these events called "Let's Get the Stupid Questions Out of the Way", any participant who successfully passes that course, is allowed to learn the very basics of screenwriting.

I ran a screenwriter's group for a few years, not far from LA. Our meetings would inevitably conclude with at least 30 minutes of discussion from the hopeful screenrwriters boasting that they'd never send their work for others to read because the producers and agents would steal their ideas or change their stories if they read it. No amount of reasoning could release them from this notion.. and still, no doubt, their works are still sitting in their kitchen drawer unstolen, uncompromised, and unread.

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